A man born blind receives his sight, but the religious leaders are too busy arguing about Sabbath rules to notice the miracle. Esther Richards unpacks John 9 and 10, challenging us to pay attention to what God's doing—even when it doesn't fit our expectations. What does it mean to be a witness? How do we avoid missing Jesus while getting caught up in religion? And what does it mean that the Good Shepherd chose to lay down his life? This is a call to open our eyes and see what's right in front of us.
01The Blind Man Who Saw God
What would it take for you to miss a miracle happening right in front of you? Apparently, for some people, all it takes is the wrong day of the week.
Esther Richards took us through John chapters 9 and 10, where we meet a man who's been blind from birth—and the religious leaders who somehow manage to miss the point entirely. What unfolds is a masterclass in how to witness well, a stunning revelation of who Jesus really is, and a challenge that still hits home today: are we paying attention to what God is doing, or are we too distracted to notice?
02Missing the Miracle
The story opens with Jesus healing a man who's been blind since birth. He does it in a rather unusual way—spitting on the ground, making mud, rubbing it on the man's eyes, and sending him to wash in the pool of Siloam. The man goes, washes, and comes back seeing.
You'd think everyone would be celebrating. Instead, the Pharisees launch an investigation.
Their problem? Jesus did this on the Sabbath—the Jewish holy day when work was forbidden. And apparently, healing someone counts as work. So rather than marvelling at the fact that a man born blind can now see, they're arguing about whether Jesus broke the rules.
Esther put it bluntly: "The Pharisees got so caught up in the law and all the technicalities and tick the boxes and getting the days right that they miss Jesus."
The challenge is stark: Don't get caught up. Don't get distracted by religion, by ticking boxes, by trying to get everything right. And miss who Jesus really is.
How to Be a Witness
Meanwhile, the man who was healed becomes an accidental theologian. The Pharisees interrogate him. They question his parents. They try to trap him into saying something incriminating about Jesus.
His response is beautifully simple: "Whether he is a sinner, I do not know. One thing I do know: though I was blind, now I see."
He doesn't claim to have all the answers. He doesn't try to out-argue the religious experts. He just shares what he knows and what he's experienced.
Esther connected this to what it means to be a witness. She pointed to Acts 4:20: "For we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard." That's it. That's all it takes to be a witness—speaking of what you've seen and heard.
The man in the story didn't take a long time researching, making sure he had all the answers and all the technical words perfectly worked out. He just said what he knew and what he'd experienced. And that's what we're called to do as well.
03"You Have Seen Him"
Eventually, the religious leaders cast the man out of the synagogue. Jesus hears about it and goes to find him. What happens next is the heart of the story.
Jesus asks: "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
The man replies: "And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?"
Jesus answers: "You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you."
The man's response? "Lord, I believe." And he worshipped him.
Esther highlighted the significance of Jesus' words: "You have seen him. It is he who is speaking to you." Jesus is basically saying: it's me. I'm here. You can see me, you can hear me.
The whole of the Bible is Jesus revealing himself and his nature. And that invitation extends to all of us: we have seen him. He is the one speaking to us. The question is whether we're paying attention.
04The Good Shepherd
In John 10, Jesus shifts from healing to teaching, using the image of a shepherd and his sheep. It's familiar territory for many of us, but Esther drew out something profound.
Jesus describes himself as the good shepherd who lays down his life for his sheep. But then he adds something crucial: "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and I have authority to take it up again."
Jesus was not forced to die. He was not made to do it. He wasn't bribed into it. He chose to die for you. It was always his choice. It was always in his control.
That's a staggering thought. When you consider everything Jesus went through—the pain, the abuse, the abandonment—he knew exactly what was coming. And he still chose it. He chose you.
05Individual and Flock
Esther made one more connection between these two chapters that's worth sitting with.
In chapter 9, Jesus heals and reveals himself to one man—an individual with a specific need. In chapter 10, he's talking about his devotion to the whole flock.
Jesus knows and loves us all as a group. But he also knows and loves you as a distinct individual.
As Jesus says: "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."
06Conversation Street
Why did the Pharisees miss it?
It's tempting to think we'd never be so blind. But the truth is, we all have our biases. We all have lenses through which we view God and the world. The Pharisees were so stuck on their religious rules that they couldn't see the miracle in front of them. The question for us is: what's our equivalent? What assumptions do we carry that might cause us to miss what God's doing?
Are we paying attention?
We live in a distracted age. We're always on our devices, half somewhere else, multitasking our way through life. The challenge from this passage is massive: how much do we pay attention in our day-to-day lives? Jesus wasn't always working in the synagogue or the temple. He was healing a blind man sitting on the pavement. God doesn't confine himself to church or dedicated "spiritual" times. He's at work in the ordinary spaces of life—the school run, the workplace, the kitchen. Are we making space for him there?
What does it mean that Jesus chose to die?
When you think about how Jesus had a choice—go through all that pain and abuse, or not—and he knew exactly what was coming, yet still chose to do it... it's beyond comprehension. That kind of love and sacrifice is mind-blowing. He didn't do it because he had to. He did it because he wanted to. He wanted you.
07Your Next Step This Week
Practice being a witness — You don't need all the answers. Just share what you've seen and experienced. "One thing I know: though I was blind, now I see" is enough.
Check your assumptions — Ask yourself honestly: where might my view of how God works be too narrow? Am I missing something he's doing because it doesn't fit my expectations?
Pay attention — Put your phone down. Be present. Look for where God might be at work in the ordinary moments of your day, not just the "religious" ones.
Sit with the shepherd — Take a few minutes to read John 10:10-18. Let the reality sink in that Jesus chose to lay down his life for you. He wasn't forced. He wanted to.
Remember you're known — Jesus knows you as an individual, not just as part of the flock. He calls his sheep by name. You're not a number to him.
08He's Always Revealing Himself
Esther left us with this: Jesus is constantly revealing himself to us in the Bible, and our only response can be to hear, to listen, to believe, and to follow him—to fall down in worship.
Pay attention. Don't get caught up by other things. Know that you are loved. And be a witness to everything he is doing for you.
Because the blind man's story isn't just history. It's an invitation. Jesus is still speaking. He's still revealing himself. The question is whether we have eyes to see and ears to hear.
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The Blind Man Who Saw God (Origin #7) Matt: [00:00:00] Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service. We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps us live a more meaningful life. We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place where you can contribute and grow our service. Uh, will last about an hour and in a few seconds you'll meet our hosts, uh, for our service, who will introduce today's talk. After the talk, we will have a time of worship and reflection after which we head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories and questions that you've posted in the comments. Now we want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church, and we've got a few ways in which you can do just that. Firstly, you [00:01:00] can engage with Crowd from any device during our live stream, and if you're up for it. Why not invite a few friends over and experience the service together? You see, church is all about connecting with God and connecting with others, and one of the easiest ways for you to do that is join one of our midweek group. Where we need online together to catch up and discover more about the amazingness of Christ. You can also subscribe to our fairly new podcast called What's the Story? Uh, where we deep dive into stories of faith and courage from everyday people. More information about. All of these things can be found on our website at www dot Crowd Church. Or you can reach out to us on social media at Crowd Church if you are new to Crowd or new to the Christian Faith and would like to know what your next steps to take on. But [00:02:00] we're not. Head over to our website, Crowd Church slash. Next for more details. And now the moment you've been waiting for is here at Online Church Service Stops Write now. Dan: Hello there. Um, Anna: hi everyone. Good evening. Dan: Well, you got a glimpse of who was leading today because I pressed the wrong button. So you saw our faces and then we went into the countdown. But hey, no one's perfect. Anna: We're still working out the tech here. Wrong way. Dan: Yeah. So, um, I'm pressing the buttons today. My name's Dan and I'm with Anna, and she's gonna help us. Get through this, Anna: Dan said just before we went on air, everyone, Dan said he's really good at the tech side. And I was like, well, I'm not very good at the tech side, so what am I here to do? Apparently just chat at you for an hour. So that's all good. [00:03:00] Dan: Yeah, and I'm not quite the tech side. We've work that one out. Anna: Matt, Matt Edmundson may not be here, but we've got it covered. So, yeah. Uh, how are you Dan? How's your weekend? Yes, Dan: doing very good thanks. Had a good week. Half term kids have been off. Mm-hmm. Uh, I've been at work, but we've had a nice time relaxed, um, already for the week ahead. Anna: Yeah, we've had, um, yeah, in the UK it's been half term here, hasn't it? And um, for anyone who's watching internationally, Dan: yes. Anna: But, um, yeah, we've, my family just took the week off. Um, obviously my little boy has been off school, so we all took a few days off work and went to North Wales for a few days, which was very nice. Normally, I think North Wales is like one of those places where it just rains and is very gray, but we had amazing weather this week, which was. Surprising at the end of October. Um, yeah, we were, we were truly blessed with some sunny days and got on the beach and Dan: Oh wow. Went Anna: for some nice walks. It was amazing. Yeah. [00:04:00] Yeah. We had a good week. Dan: Oh, Anna: brilliant. Yeah. Dan: Yeah. You Anna: don't always expect that in October, do you? And yeah, today literally the clocks have just gone back, so it's, uh, yeah. So me feeling very wintry and very dark, like I just, as I was logging on to meet Dan before it was like. It was half five and we were just logging in, weren't we? And it was like already pitch black. It's like, no, we're into winter. Dan: I know the last few times I've had to, I've had to use this curtain to block out the sun and now all it's doing is blocking out the mess on my windowsill. There's no sun streaming through. Anna: I love it. Well that's great. Dan: So, um, what have we got lined up for today? Um. We got Esther Richards bringing the torque from probably the best location we've had. So it's, it's not in a room somewhere. She's doing the torque from a beach in Australia, which is pretty impressive. So looking forward to [00:05:00] Anna: Okay. That is pushing, that is just pushing out my North Wales trip, isn't it? Like Yeah, I've been on the beach, but not quite like summer in Australia. So, okay, we're bringing the glamor tonight then, aren't we? And it is truly international. Dan: Yes. Uh, and then we've got. Anna and John Farrington doing worship and then we'll be back with some Conversation Street. So we'll talk about the, the talk. So, um, put any questions in the comments. Mm-hmm. Yeah. 'cause we'd love to have a go at answering them and see what you're thinking about Esther's talk. So, great. Are you, yeah. Are we all ready to go? Anna: Yeah, let's roll the talk then and let's roll the talk and we'll see. Yeah, say patient comments and thoughts as we go through. Dan: That'd be great. We'll see you at Conversation Street. Esther: Press one. Hello [00:06:00] from Sunny Lord Heart Island in Australia, Esther, and we're gonna be looking today at John nine and 10. So first I'm gonna look at John nine, so I'm just gonna read it out for you. So Jesus heals a man born blind. As he passed by says Jesus. He saw a man blind from birth and his disciples asked him, rabbi, who sinned this man or his parents that he was born blind? Jesus. It was not that this man sinned or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while at his day night is coming when no one can work. As long as I'm in the world, I'm the light of the world. Having said these things, he spat on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man's eyes with mud and said to him, go wash in the pool of em, which means scent. So he went and washed and came back singing. The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, is this not the man who used to sit and [00:07:00] beg? Some said it is. He others said No, but he is like him. He kept saying, I am the man. So they said to him, then how were your eyes opened? He answered. The man called Jesus made mud, anoint and anointed my eyes and said to me, go to silo and wash. So I went and washed and received my sight. They said to him, where is he? He said, I do not know. They brought to the Pharisees, the man who had formally been blind. Now, it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight, and he said to them, he put mud on my eyes and I washed, and I see some of the Pharisees said, this man is not from God for he does not keep Sabbath. But others said, how can a man who is a sinner do such science? And there was a division among them. So they said again to the blind man, what do you say about him since he has opened your eyes? He said he is a prophet. The Jews did not believe, [00:08:00] the Jews did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they called the parents of the man who had received his sights and asked them, is this your son who you say was born blind? How then does he now see? His parents answered, we know that this is our son and that he was born blind. But how he now sees, we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes. Ask him, he is of age. He will speak for himself. His parents said these things because they feared the Jews. For the Jews had already agreed if anyone should confess, to confess Jesus, to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue. Therefore, his parents said he is of age. Ask him. So for the second time, they called the man who had been blind and said to him, give glory to God. We know that this man is a sinner. He a, he answered whether he is a sinner. I do not know one thing. I do know that though. I was blind. Now I see. They said to him, what did he do to you? How did he open your eyes? He answered this. [00:09:00] I told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciple? And they reviled him saying, you are his disciple. But we are disciples of Moses. We know that God has spoken to Moses, but ask this man, we do not know where he comes from. And the man answered Why This is an amazing thing. You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing. They answered him. You were born an utter sin and you would teach us and they cast him out. Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said, do you believe in the son of man? He answered, and who is he, sir? That I may believe in him. Jesus said to him, you have seen him and it is he who is speaking to you. He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him. [00:10:00] Jesus said, for judgment, I came into this world. But those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind. Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things and said to him, are we also blind? Jesus said to them, if you are blind, you would have no guilt. But now that you say, we see your guilt remains so in this chapter. We see Jesus healing a man who was born blind. Jesus does this in a seemingly in quite strange way. He spits on the grounds and makes mud with saliva with his saliva, and rubs that mud on the man's eyes and sends the man to go to the pool of S to wash, which he did and he was healed. It's a pretty amazing healing. Then there's this whole kerfuffle about it with the Pharisees afterwards, and they're questioning how it happened. They ask the man who was healed, they ask his parents, they ask the man who was healed again, and in the end it becomes a conversation about who Jesus actually is.[00:11:00] The Pharisees are saying that surely Jesus cannot be from God. 'cause the day that he performed this healing was the Sabbath day or the Jewish Holy Day where they're not supposed to do any work, and they reckon that healing somebody counts as work. So if he doesn't keep the Sabbath, then surely he's a sinner. Surely he can't be from God. The parents of the man are, when asked, are too afraid to say who they think Jesus is in case they get cast out of the synagogue. So the man who was healed then explains what he knows and what his experience has been. And he does that in verses 25 to 33 where he says, um, whether he is a sinner. I do not know one thing. I do know though that though I was blind, now I see. And then he continues on to kind of talk about why he thinks. Who Jesus is, who he says he is. Um, because he talks about, you know, we, we've never seen a man, uh, who's been blind from birth [00:12:00] to be to see. Again, people can't do that surely. And we know that God speaks to his people and speaks to good people. So he kind of uses his own logic to, um, see what he knows, see what he's experienced, and understand who Jesus is, who he believes Jesus has revealed himself to be. So this gets him cast out of the synagogue and Jesus hears about this and goes to talk to him, and Jesus then explains to the man who he is, which is in verses 35 to 38. Which I'm just gonna read again. Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said, do you believe in the son of man? He answered, and who is he, sir? That I may believe in him. Jesus said to him, you have seen him. It is he who is speaking to you. He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him. You have seen him. It is he who is speaking to you. Jesus [00:13:00] is basically saying, it's me. I'm here. You've seen me, you can hear me, and the Pharisees got so caught up in the law and all the technicalities and tick the boxes and getting the days right that they miss Jesus. Don't get caught up. Don't get distracted by religion, by ticking boxes, by trying to get everything right. And miss who Jesus really is and who he's calling you to be, he has already revealed himself to you. The whole of the Bible is Jesus revealing himself and his nature. You have seen him. It is he who is speaking to you. That is relevant for all of us. Even now, we can also learn a whole lot from the response of being no longer a blind man. The way the man responds to the questioning of the Pharisees is a really beautiful example of being a witness. We know that we are called to be witnesses to Jesus [00:14:00] and to who Jesus is, and we see it many times in the Bible. I'm just gonna give you a few examples. So we see it a few times in Acts in chapter one, verse eight, which says. But you'll receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in all Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria until the end of the earth. We see it again in Acts chapter 22, verse 15, which says, for you will be a witness. For him, to everyone of what you have seen and heard and earlier you see in Isaiah four, three verse 10, you are my witnesses, declares the Lord and my servant, whom I whom I have chosen that you may know and believe me and [00:15:00] understand that I am P before me. No God was formed, nor shall th be any after me. You are my witnesses, declares the Lord. So we're told to be witnesses for Jesus and it's a vital part of God's mission of what he's calling us to. But how do we do that? Well in Acts four 20, um, it tells us a little bit how to do this very briefly and simply, but in a really simple and easy to understand way. It says for we cannot speak of what we have for. For we cannot, but speak of what we have seen and heard. That's it. That's all it takes to be a witness is to speak of what we see and what we hear. So Acts four tells us how to do it. Um, and the man in the story, John shows us how to do it because in verse 25, he says very simply one [00:16:00] thing. I do know that though I was blind. Now I see. He even admits that he doesn't know the full extent of everything he says, whether he is a sinner, I do not know. He doesn't take a really long time researching and, and trying to make sure that he knows all the answers and has all the understanding and all the technical words and everything worked out perfectly. He just says what he knows and what he's experienced, and that's what it means to be a witness. That is what we are called to do as well, is to be a witness. And this man is an excellent example of that. So I'm gonna move on to John chapter 10, um, which is a brilliant chapter. It's a classic, you've probably heard many parts of it before. Um, it's entitled, I Am The Good Shepherd. I'm gonna especially talk about, well, that, that aspect of it, of Jesus being the Good Shepherd. So I'm just gonna read it. [00:17:00] Truly, truly, I say to you, this is Jesus speaking. He who does not enter the sheep pole by the door, but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. The he who enters by is the shepherd of the sheep. To hand the gatekeeper. The sheep hear his voice and he calls his own sheep by name and leads the mouth. When he has bought out all his own, he goes before them and the sheep follow him. For, they know his voice, a stranger. They will not follow. They will flee from him for they do not know the voice of strangers. This figure of speech Jesus used with them, that they did not understand what he was saying to them. So Jesus said to them. So Jesus again said to them, truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door sheep. All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he'll be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief comes [00:18:00] only to steal and kill and. I came, they may have life and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd. The good Shepherd lays down his life with a sheep. He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming, leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches and scatter him. He flees because he has a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. I'm the good shepherd. I know my own. I'm my own Know me. Just as the father knows me and I know the father and I lay down my life with a sheep and I have other sheep that are not of this fold, I must bring them also and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. For this reason, the father loves me 'cause I lay down my life. The time I take it up again, no one takes it from me, but I lay it down at my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my father, there was [00:19:00] again, a division among the Jews because of these words, many of them said he has a demon and isn't safe. Why listen to him? Others said, these are not the words of one who is oppressed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind? At that time, the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the colony of Solomon. So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, how long will you keep us in suspense? You are the Christ. Tell us plainly Jesus answered them. I told you, and you do not believe the works that I do in my father's name. Bear witness about me. But you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life and they will never perish. No one who, and no one will snatch them out of my hands. My father who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the father's hand. I and the father are what? The [00:20:00] Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them. I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of them are you going to stone me? The Jews answered him. It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy, because you being a man make yourself God. Jesus answered. Jesus answered them. Is it not written in your law? I said, you are Gods, if you called them Gods, to whom the word of God came and scripture cannot be broken. Do you say of him? Whom the father consecrated and sent into the world, you are blaspheming. 'cause I said, I'm the son of God. If I'm not doing the works of my father, then do not believe me. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works that you may know and understand. The Father is in me, and I am in the Father again. They sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hand. He went away again across the Jordan, to the place where John had been baptizing at first. And there he remained. And many came to him and they said, John did no sign. But everything that [00:21:00] John said about this man was true and many believed him there. So it's chapter 10. So Jesus says that he is good shepherd that he is. The good shepherd who will lay down his life for his sheep. And actually it talks about how he chooses to lay down his life for his sheep. Says no one takes it from me. It's talking about laying down his life and take giving up his life Says no one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. Jesus was not forced to die. Um, he was not made to do it. He wasn't bribed into it. He chose to die for you. It was always his choice. It was always in his control. Whether he wanted to do it said that he had the authority to lay his life down, and that's what it talks about in verse 18. [00:22:00] This is clearly talking about what Jesus did on the cross, that he chose to die for you. Jesus always had the choice and he chose you. He desires to know you. Later in the chapter, he tells us, um, that it is he who gives us eternal life, and no one can take that away. Verse 27 says, my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. And this is really similar to part in the last chapter where Jesus says. Um, reveals himself to the healed man where he says, it is me. It's he who has been talking, speaking to you, and the man believes and worships, he hears his voice and he follows him. This is a really clear call as to who we are supposed to be and what we are supposed to do in response to Jesus, calling to us. Jesus is constantly revealing himself to us in the Bible, and this is our, this can be our only response to believe, to hear. To listen, to [00:23:00] believe, and to follow him to fall down in worship. So I just wanted to make one last brief, very quick link, um, between these two chapters. In chapter nine, Jesus heals and reveals himself to one man, and in chapter 10, he is talking about his devotion to the whole flock of sheep. Jesus knows and loves us all as a group. Every single one of us together. But he also knows and loves you as a distinct individual. He is always revealing himself to us because he wants you. He wants to know you, and he wants you to know him. Pay attention. Don't get caught up by other things. Know that you are loved, and to be a and be a witness to everything he is doing for you.[00:24:00] Video: What a beautiful. What a beautiful name It is the name of Jesus Christ. What a beautiful name it is. What a beautiful name It is the name. You didn't want heaven without us, so Jesus who brought [00:25:00] heaven sin was great. Your love was great. It is. What a wonderful name. Its the name of Jesus Christ. What a wonderful a. Jesus[00:26:00] death could not hold you before you. You silence the. The heavens are the praise of your glory for you. You have you. Yours is the kingdom. Yours is the glory. Yours is the name [00:27:00] above. What a powerful name. What a powerful name. Anna: Wow. Hey everyone. Welcome back. Dan: Yeah. What did you think of about that? What a great talk. [00:28:00] It was amazing, wasn't it? I mean, Anna: yeah, Dan: as an aside, I think we should have wave noise at the background of all our talks Anna: every week. It was kind of relaxing, wasn't it? Dan: It was very relaxing. Um, yeah. But I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant talk. Um, there was a Anna: lot of content in there, wasn't there? 'cause it covered two chapters of the Bible, so she had a lot to cover, but just some amazing points in there. I mean, what was kind of something that really struck you about it, Dan? Dan: I think, and I think you picked up on it in the comments as well, that right the beginning, this, this man gets healed. Anna: Mm. He's Dan: blind from birth. He can now see, but all the Pharisees. Worried about is Oh, but did he do it on Sabbath? Yeah. And I think we can miss the amazingness of what happens trying to find fault and did someone break the rules or what's going on? [00:29:00] And yeah, what I thing that they missed this man's blind and that's the secondary part of their, you know, the, the story, isn't it? Anna: Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it? And you kind of think, oh, the Pharisees are, they're such fool, like they always seem to miss it 'cause they're so stuck on their religious rules and, and their sort of way of thinking. But then I, then it, it cha then when I sit back and think about it challenges me because I think, well, maybe I'm not stuck on that kind of religiousness, but we're all, we all have our. Kind of preexisting. Yeah. Beliefs and views and way of seeing the world, don't we, in our own lens and how we think about God and what he's doing in the world, and who he can and can't use, and who he works through. And, you know, we all have our biases, I think. And it, it really challenges me to think, you know, so exactly what Esther said, like, don't miss what God's doing right in front of you because it doesn't fit.[00:30:00] Your narrow view of how you think God should work in your life or in someone else's life or in the world around us. I think so often what God's doing in the world doesn't necessarily fit on the boundaries of what churches or religion is. And um, yeah, God's just so big, isn't he? I don't think he fits in the sort of narrow boundaries of, you know, human and standing full stop and yeah, kind of know that. But it's still challenging to think about, isn't it? Dan: Yeah, absolutely. And but the one, the one thing, the one person it wasn't challenging for was the man that got healed. Mm-hmm. So when some, when God doesn't think in you or to you or for you, it's, that's when he was just a natural witness, wasn't he? He was like, well, you know, I know that. Sinners don't do these things, so therefore he must have been from God. You know, look at me. I, I can see now. [00:31:00] It was just, it flowed outta him because of what God had done for him. Anna: Yeah, and I think, I think the other thing that really struck me about the talk was when she started talking about the Good Shepherds in the second chapter and she took, talked about like how he chose to lay down his life. Um. Like he did it of his own accord. And I think, I'm just looking in the, the, um, comments bar actually. And Nicholas said, um, when you think about how Jesus had a choice to go through what he went through or not. Mm-hmm. And he, and he knew how much pain and abuse he would suffer, and yet he still chose to do it. And I think that's it, isn't it? Just blows my mind. And I know the cross is kind of at the center of our Christian faith, and I know we know this stuff, but still, when you stop and consider it, it's still, it still blows my mind to be like, oh, he didn't do it. 'cause he had to do it. You know? He, he chose, he chose that way. Way. Yeah. He chose to lay down his life. [00:32:00] And that is it, it kind of blazed my mind. It, it's beyond, it's beyond my comprehension really. Dan: Yeah. That Anna: kind of love and sacrifice. Dan: Dedication. Um, I don't think it's, um, he nest. It is in, in, um, in John 10 as well. It says, well, if there's a, a shepherd that's a hired shepherd, he doesn't have that commitment. You know, when, when a wolf comes, he just legs it, you know, let them, let them have, let the wolf have the sheep. But he, he's got that personal. Responsibility. He, he's, God, he's a son. He couldn't, he, he chose to die for us, but didn't mm-hmm. Have to die for us. But then, yeah, his, his love for us caused him to do it. You know, it was like, there's probably theologians go into that, don't [00:33:00] they? Did he, could he choose it really? Because he could not do it. But, but, but he did. He chose, and he did it for, he died for us. Amazing. Anna: Yeah. Quite mind blowing, isn't it? It's like big stuff. Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Anna: Um, the other thing that I found, um, just really good was like what she was saying at the end about, um, how Jesus is like, you know, it goes back, it linked back to her original point, which is Jesus is always revealing himself. And so he was revealing himself, you know, through healing that blind man. Mm-hmm. And yet. Lots of the religious people around, didn't, didn't recognize, recognize how he was working, didn't recognize the miracle he was doing right in front of their eyes. They sort of mystic so hung up on the wrong stuff and you know, and there was that challenge at the end wasn't there to like pay attention and like that, that kind of call that like Jesus is always revealing himself, he's always working in the world, he's always doing stuff. And like how much, how much are we paying attention? How much do [00:34:00] we. Do we see it? Or how much do we miss kind of what God's doing right in front of us? And that, that's challenging, isn't it? Dan: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, through John's gospel, he keeps revealing himself and he keeps speaking to different people, the Samaritan woman, and you know, I am the Messiah, um, the feed of the 5,000, and they're asking who he is and he keeps saying, you know, I'm God. And they see all these miracles of wonders. And right back to that first point that they miss it because they're trying to nitpick and trying to find out, well, you know, does this, does this put me out of a job as a Pharisee? Am I, am I, I, yeah. Will I, I, will I lose my standing if I side with this man? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What we gonna, what we gonna lose to side with Jesus? Mm. What's it worth losing? [00:35:00] Anna: Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a big thought, isn't it? I, um, I also just think that whole thing of like paying attention to, you know, just being, being sort of aware and paying attention and looking for where God's at work in your sort of every day. I think it's something that I'm constantly challenged to do. It's like, you know. Like Jesus wasn't always working in all sort of like obvious places in the synagogue or in the temple. He, you know, in the religious spaces of his day, he was like, you know, working with someone, you know, he's just sitting on the pavement. He's a blind man or. You know, he, he was teaching kind of crowds, um, who were passing by, and I just, it, it makes me think like some, quite often God's at work in the places where we least expect it or where we're not necessarily looking for him. So for me, I, I know, you know, I'm expecting God speak to me when I work into a walk into a church or, [00:36:00] you know, maybe when I spend a bit of time reading my Bible or when it comes something like Crowd Church like this. I'm expecting God to speak to me through the talk, but. Like, how much do I pay attention in my day-to-day life as I'm walking around working? Yeah. Taking my little way around, you know, whatever it is. Like how doing the jobs around the house, how much am I looking for God to be working when I'm on the school run? Or you know, in my everyday non-religious like space. Yeah. And that's the thing that always challenges me. It's like, you know, God's, you know, the Bible shows us that God's really at work. In those ordinary spaces and the everyday spaces of life, and yeah, that's, I find that challenging too. Dan: Yeah. Um, it's, I'm trying to form, form the question, but Yeah, I, I agree with you. Anna: Like wheels, whiling and done spray. [00:37:00] Dan: Yeah. If God. Perhaps some of it comes back to religion, doesn't it? Even just in our, how we live our lives that, like you said, well, when we read in a Bible, we expect God to speak to us when we're at church, we do. Yeah, and that's some it, it's good. Absolutely. But it can be that religion bit as well, that God surely speaks to us just in the day to day. Just when we're, like you say, just when we're out and about because he. He doesn't confine himself to church. He doesn't confine himself to those dedicated times, which is, which is amazing that, that we serve a God. We don't serve religion, we don't serve a set of rules. We serve a living God I love. Mm-hmm. Anna: Yeah. Dan: I love that. Yeah. Anna: It makes all the difference, doesn't it? And I think that that cool to pay attention as well. It's. You know, it rings really true [00:38:00] to me because, um, I think we live in such a distracted age, don't we? Like, you know, we just have a lot of entertainment and social media and, you know, we, we we're always on our devices and on mobile phones, like we're not, a lot of the time, we're not paying attention to what's in front of us or to people who are in front of us or the things that are happening in front of us, because we're kind of half somewhere else, aren't we? We're always mm-hmm. Multitasking and like technology's wonderful. It's like, you know, enabling us to do this now and we've got people in Australia and we've got people, I think we've got someone from Kenya. Kenya, yeah. All sorts of places and Wales. It's a great technology is such a blessing, but it's also like. Because of so much of the technology we carry in our own pockets and the ability to always be online and always be somewhere else, we also can miss what's in front of us, can't we, in our day-to-day life. And I'm terribly guilty of that. I am a very easily distracted person. [00:39:00] And um, you know, I do just think that challenge for me is massive that, um. You know, it, it's that thing of like, um, you know, do I notice and am I making space for God in, in those everyday moments? Because I think our culture and the way the world is now, it's, it's harder and harder to be fully present, isn't it, in the moment and with what's in front of you. And I think, how much am I making space for God? How much am I just filling every spare second of my day, scrolling online or, you know. When God could be speaking to me or be wanting to do something, and I don't know, I, I find that ma, that's a constant challenge to me at the moment. I just, it's something I'm mulling on a lot. I feel like we're not very present. Yeah. As, as a tendency, like our whole culture. It's not, it's not about being present here and now. Dan: Yeah. Wanting Anna: to work in the moment. Dan: Yeah. We, we sort of think it is with information, don't we think? Well, we, we've got, we must be present [00:40:00] because we get information constantly to us about what's happening. But that's just living. It can just be living a different life, living a life of, of other people or other events, not, not what we're doing now. Anna: Yeah. Just having a look at what comments we've got. Yes. So Miriam saying that she thought it was special talk because it was really about God loving us. And Dan: I think Anna: that goes back to the, the point about, um, Jesus choosing to lay down his life. And I think, yeah, that was incredible. Dan: Yeah. And I was just, as, as Miriam said, that I thought he, um, he healed that blind man, but he, he risked his life. Just to heal him in a way, didn't he? Yeah. He, the, the pha, he could have got away with things. He could have just talked. Um, but the Pharisees wanted to stone him for doing it on a Sabbath. But that man was worth, was worth. It was [00:41:00] worth, Anna: yeah. Dan: Um, being potentially stoned. It was worth all the abuse that that man could now see. Anna: Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. So look what else we've got here. Dan: I think it's such a great analogy that we don't, don't even have to stretch it too far. You know, he's blind and he can see God wants to come just in that, sits at that. He wants to bring clarity, but it's, it's that big. He wants to give us life so we can be, um. We're alive without. I think we sang a song at church this morning. It had something like line saying we're we were alive without breathing. We are here, but God wants to come and bring that breath. He wants to bring. Um, John 10 10 says that life in all its fullness, all its [00:42:00] abundance. Um, yeah. Esther Red that didn't Anna: she, that was part of the passage, so. Mm-hmm. Dan: Yeah. He wants to give, give us fullness. Um, Anna: yeah. Dan: And. Matt, let's put it on Matt Crew. Put it on about, um, getting in contact with us. 'cause if you've got, if you're watching this at a later date or even now, please just, um, feel free just to send DM through, uh, at Crowd Church. Get in contact with us if you want to know more. Yeah. About God. You want to know more about who he is. Um, we don't do this for fun or to be. On YouTube. Um, we do this to tell, Anna: gonna become famous because we're not that professional. No, Dan: I'd have to get my buttons pressed much, much better. Um, we do it because we wanna tell people, tell you about Jesus. Yeah, because he's worth it Is that's, it's night and days, black and white. It's being blind and it's being able to [00:43:00] see that's who God came for, came for the individual. I wrote that down in my notes here. That, um, Anesa mentioned it that he came first as individuals, so he came for the, the Good Shepherd as a flock, but he came as individual sheep. He wasn't gonna allow one of us to get out. And he says he's come to give us eternal life. Anna: Hmm. Yeah. And there's, there's quite a lot in the Bible about like, um. The good Shepherd isn't there and him being willing to go for one, you know, it's that, that thing of like, he'll leave the 99 to go and look for the one lost sheep. So it is about the whole flock, but it's also about, again, it's about individuals and that that's what springs to mind when I sort of hear that. And yeah, I loved what Esther had to say about it was by seeing him move and reveal himself to an individual in a really personal way. And meeting their really personal needs. And [00:44:00] then it was a really practical need, wasn't it? Like he couldn't say. Yeah. And, and yeah. And also that thing of like, he's, you know, the good shepherd to everyone and yeah, I liked, I liked how she pulled the two quite different chapters together in a way. Um, yeah. And there's that thread through all of it about Jesus revealing himself. Yeah. Dan: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because yeah, definitely the. Yeah, the shepherd, it says that he keeps us, he keeps us, that we can't be snatched from his hands as well. Um, and that's quite a big promise, isn't it? That he's not just a one trick pony, he's not just gonna come and give you some good feelings now and then that God came, that we can have a eternal life and that we can be protected, that he comes to help us through when times are. When times are rough, when things are going on, it's not about the good [00:45:00] times, it's about he's here for the hard times as well. Anna: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely. Um, there's also lots of jokes here about like, when is Matt gonna fly us all out to Australia? Yes. That's definitely a budget question back to, I think, says he'll. Hot hard, but someone's got to do it. Dan: Yeah. Yeah. We've got, um, Anna: Matt's asking for a birthday shout out, so there we go. Dan: Yeah. Happy birthday on Friday, Matt. Hope you have a, have a good day. Getting, catching up a little bit to, um, to me and Matt that age. And we've got, um, we're continuing the series next week. Um, John chapter 11 next week. Mm-hmm. We've got Dave Khan coming to talk, well coming to talk. He will be talking online. You can't really come to talk [00:46:00] online. Um, he's talking online, um, with Matt and Phil Watson next week. So tech will be much better. And it'd be some, oh, it's Anna: been great tonight. Don't, don't do yourself down on It's better than if I was It's worked Dan: Will I way, yes. Anna: We're here, everyone can see us working. That, that's great. So, uh, yeah, definitely tune in again next week. 'cause Dave Corner's a great guy. He's got lots of good stuff to say, so yeah, that'll be good. And they're doing John 11. So it's following on in the, the series on the gospel of John, is it? Yeah. Dan: Yeah, exactly. Fabulous. I think we're a bit early, but I think we've answered everyone's questions. So like I say, if you wanna get in touch, Anna: wasn't it? Dan: Yeah. Yeah. If you wanna get in touch, please get in touch. If you've got any questions, just send them through. If you've got any Prayer [00:47:00] requests, then we'd love to pray for you. Yeah, really, really would. So yeah. Thanks Anna. Thanks for. Being on today. Pleasure. And thank you very much, Esther, for bringing that amazing word. Yeah. All the way from Australia. Yes, indeed. Yeah. Brilliant. And we'll see you all next week. Anna: Yeah, Chino next week guys. Have a great week. Have a great week down. Dan: And you, goodbye.